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[nolan]

Hello all. As the subject line implies, I'm rather new to Bongo. Last January I discovered Citadel in my quest for a better email solution, and while I'm mostly happy with it, there are aspects that bug me as well. Bongo looks interesting, but there's no features page that I've found, so I'm not sure how to get these questions answered other than posting here. Feel free to point me to one if I've missed it.

1. Does Bongo support multiple domains and multiple email addresses? Can I have one address at my primary domain and another at my business domain, all under the same account? My primary address might be nolan@thewordnerd.info, while my secondary might be me@mydbaname.com.

2. I think I saw that Bongo supports archiving. This is great. Much of my use will be from desktop IMAP clients, though, specifically Thunderbird3. Is Bongo's archiving scheme compatible with TB? That is, TB moves archived mail into Archives.year-month IMAP folders. It'd be great if those two were compatible. It'd be even better if there was some way to have all deleted mail archived automatically like Gmail, only the behavior would be there regardless of client, but that may be getting ahead of myself.

3. Does the IMAP server support IMAP idle? That's a Dovecot feature I dearly miss in Citadel, and since I'm planning on migrating to a mobile email client that supports this functionality, it'd be great to have.

4. What about server-side mail filtering via Sieve? My main use case right now is separating all mailing lists into one folder so they don't end up in my inbox, and doing the same for spam. I could do without this but would eventually miss it.

5. Does the calendar support tasks? This is something I'm playing with in Citadel, so not a huge need, but it exists.

6. Is there any work being done on sync? Currently I have a system working between Citadel and my phone, but it requires a separate Funambol server, which is fairly heavy, and I don't think that project has seen work in 5 months or so. Google searches reveal some talk on this back in 2007. Has anything happened since? This is a fairly important one for me, since rarely are contacts and calendars useful in a vacuum.

7. How difficult is it to migrate existing mail? Citadel has a number of protocols available for accessing the underlying datastore, plus an XML format. Would be nice to bring all my existing messages over if possible.

Thanks for the answers!

[LanceHaig]

Hi Nolan,

Firstly welcome.

Some answers to your questions.

1. Yes Bongo supports multiple domains and you could set-up users on each.

2. As far as I know we do not support archiving yet. The idea of supporting Thunderbird archiving is interesting and I think the guys would look at it.

3. I am not sure but will ask so_solid_moo who is on eof the developers.

4. The rules agent is still in development so it is a feature we want to add.

5. The calendar used to support tasks but recently we have been working on it so I am not sure if it does. But it will in the future.

6. You are right we did discuss sync back in 2007 but we have been focusing on improving our mailstore code so that has not been implemented yet.

7. We have not investigated moving files in a bongo created program yet. I have used imapsync to migrate between servers before.

From my answers I am sure you are realising that we are still a short time away from having all the features you need. The current mail bits work (IMAP POP SMTP etc...) our webmail bits are VERY broken at the moment so webmail and calendar bits are not available.

If you give us a few more months we should be in a better state.

I hope this answers your questions. Please keep checking back as we are hard at work on the changes and fixes to the system.

[so_solid_moo]

2. Lance is right, we don't properly support archiving yet (though there is a little support). I think it's quite important that archiving work well with clients, so it's probably going to need some design: we don't want to conflict with what clients are doing (e.g., having the store and the client attempt to archive the same stuff simultaneously would probably be bad!). I'd love to know more about what you think we should do here though, it's an easy feature to finish.

3. IMAP IDLE - we don't support it yet, no, and we almost certainly won't before Bongo 1.0 I'm afraid. The good news is that IDLE and the various other Lemonade features are definitely on the road-map, though.

4. As Lance said, we have a rules agent. It's not quite as hard-core as full Sieve, but it's not far off. We just need a gui for it now

5. It should do, yeah,

6. Yeah, we haven't done much here yet. Problem is really knowing which Sync system to start with